Inside, Outside, and Giggling at the GOP Bubble

Inside the GOP bubble:    DRUDGE POLL WHO WON THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

MCCAIN

74%

103,957

OBAMA

25%

35,541

NEITHER

1%

1,785

Total Votes: 141,283

Outside the GOP bubble (via TPM)

In the CBS poll of undecided debate-watchers, 53% say Obama won, only 22% say McCain won, and 24% say it was a tie.

The CNN poll was just read on the air, surveying all debate-watchers in general. It shows 58% saying Obama won, to 31% saying McCain won. Barack Obama's personal ratings are 66% favorable to 33% unfavorable, way ahead of McCain's score of 49%-49%.

Late Update: Some more numbers from the CNN poll were just read on TV. Obama was seen as stating his ideas more clearly by 66%-25%, was seen as the stronger leader by 56%-39%, and was more likable by 70%-22%. McCain did win in one category: He's the candidate who launched more attacks on his opponent, by a whopping 80%-7%.

Late Late Update: Independents, who made up 30% of CNN's sample, gave it to Obama 57%-31%, essentially the same as the overall margin for Obama.

Best Wrap-Up of the Night (Gail Collins):

Obama is like the coolest, most popular camper [at summmer camp]. You can’t wait to see him again after school starts. Then you discover that back in real life, he’s founder of the Model Boat Society and the president of the Safety Club. And McCain is like the head counselor who led all the hikes and who you wished was your older brother. Until you realized that he spent the cold weather hanging out at a biker bar and watching reruns of “Dog the Bounty Hunter.”

Best Visual Snap of the Night (via Ezra Klein):

Yes, John, they're firm and well-shaped. But you can't touch.